Wednesday, October 06, 2004

Kali and the Debate II

Is it just me or does it seem odd that a man who was the CEO of a company that did business with "enemy" countries during his tenure is the acting vice president? Or, that he voted against a resolution in favor of freeing Nobel Peace Prize winner Nelson Mandela during the height of Apartheid? This, and 50% of the people of of our country actually want him back in office. Strange. Unusual. Bizarre. But ... true.

Yesterday's Kali class was interesting, as usual. We worked on locks and choke holds using our sticks. The difference between a good choke or lock and a bad one is so subtle that it seems it will take a whole lot of practice to get it mastered.


Blogger Constant said...

My view.

9:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"who was the CEO of a company that did business with 'enemy' countries during his tenure"

I presume you are quoting the talking points Edwards recited: "did business with Libya and Iran, two sworn enemies of the United States"

This may be insightful. It doesn't totally discredit your statement, because Halliburton does do business with Iran (which sanctions allow apparently?). But the Libya thing did not happen during Cheney's tenure as you and Edwards suggest.

Iran: Indeed, Halliburton has said it does about $30 million to $40 million in oilfield service business in Iran annually through a subsidiary, Halliburton Products and Services Ltd. The company says that the subsidiary fully complies with US sanctions laws, but the matter currently is under investigation by a federal grand jury in Houston.

Bribery Investigation: U.S. and French authorities currently are investigating whether a joint venture whose partners included a Halliburton subsidiary paid bribes or kickbacks to win a $12 billion construction project in Nigeria.

Libya: Edwards was wrong to include Libya, however. In 1995, before Cheney joined the company, Halliburton pled guilty to criminal charges that it violated the U.S. ban on exports to Libya and said it would pay $3.81 million in fines. Those violations dated back to 1987 and 1990.
Just FYI, gotta keep you honest Mo. :-)


3:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, gotta post one more... you express suprise that half the population could be in favor of Cheney being VP due to his former company's business with Iran.

I wonder, is it worse to have been CEO of a company that did legally sanctioned business with Iran? Or to have actually coordinated with the enemy in a time of war? And the other half of the country wants this guy who not only gave aid and comfort to the enemy, but actively helped them defeat the US in a time of war, to be president. As you say, very strange, unusual and bizarre indeed.

Hope you're enjoying your day my friend...


6:58 AM  
Blogger moluv said...

You have got to be kidding? The only thing these articles prove is that Kerry participated in peace talks on his own. Also, it seems that one of his driving points was the release of captured American soldiers.

To compare the efforts of a former soldier trying to save the lives of other soldiers by ending a war that we never should have started in the first place, to a man that ran a company that historically has been repeatedly fined for illegal activities is insane. Literally insane.

One man profits by war and the deaths it naturally requires, and may continue too. The other is riduculed for attempting to restore peace and save the lives of his peers. This is madness.

11:48 AM  

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